never ,it takes one personal disaster to starft looking .I feel so ashamed now for a brother was dsfellowshiped for apostasy was I was a kid and nver talked to him
raymond frantz
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For those of you who were die hard JW's, did you ever think...
by TweetieBird inyou would find yourself on this side of the fence?.
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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Dario Khel ,many thanks for the advice ,you gave food for thought
Gotshapeddemon ,here is my thought .I agree entirely about the 95% "sleeping" sheep ,nevertheless they are blaspheming against Jehovah with their doctrines and they are a danger to the public since they do not tell all the truth to new comers .What if i send an anonymous letter to the elders telling them that will expose the truth to the local community (with flyers from door to door?) about the disfellowshiping practice .You see ,they can lie to people from door to door and lie to themselves but when faced with the option of being exposed to the very people that they 're trying to witness the powers of reason will return because deep inside they know they are full of bull*** .
This way I get something accomplished .Your thoughts?
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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raymond frantz
Why is it that no one is trying to take on them from within ? I know Candice Condi tried and succeeded to sue them for the pedophilia issue ,but how about the shunning policy which holds so many captives
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What is the New Light?
by JustHuman14 inhi everyone.
i haven't visited the forum for quite a long time, and specially when it has changed before 2 years(my previous avatar was justhuman, since 2001), but i couldn't retrieve my account after the change of the forum, so i create a similar avatar.. so i didn't had time to look what's going on in the wt world, for at least 2 years( i was busy building my carreer to the titanic) and i just pop in to ask what are the new developments in wt world.
any new lights that the gb came across with, or god directed them to present to the flock at the apropriate time?.
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hi justhuman is your photo the greek f0ootball team european cup trophy ?
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Advise Needed : Should I stay should I go ?
by raymond frantz ina year ago i started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year i'm convinced that i have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .i hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting watchtower articles .unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and i have raised them to be good witnesses .i feel betrayed by the watchtower and i'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .these satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after raymond franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .what shall i do stay in and try to work against them or leave?
any advice will be appreciated.
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raymond frantz
A year ago I started looking heavily into "apostate" websites ,now after a year I'm convinced that I have been lied to and kept in the dark for so long .I hate going to the meetings having to cope with these disgusting Watchtower articles .Unfortunatelly my family are still in wife and kids and I have raised them to be good witnesses .I feel betrayed by the Watchtower and I'm sure if it wasn't for these evil men in Brooklyn 99% of all witnesses that wake up would not have an issue changing all the wrong doctrines .These Satanic men who dare call themselves "anointed " have spend almost 40 years, especially since they changed the baptismal vows and after Raymond Franz's exit ,creating a "prison of the mind" ,if anyone wants to leave they have to kiss goodbye friends ,family and start all over again .What shall I do stay in and try to work against them or leave? Any advice will be appreciated
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The Governing Body - their own worst enemy!
by cedars ini've been giving some thought recently to what's going on in the minds of the individual governing body members, and what makes them tick.
the process of listening to their talks for my "getting to know you" youtube video series, though draining, has been very enlightening.
i now feel i know some of their individual personalities a little better than i did previously.. then there has been the tumultuous events of 2012. it's been interesting to note the way the governing body has responded to some of these issues, and how in most cases their responses have been woefully inadequate or even counter-productive as regards their long-term interests.. for example:.
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raymond frantz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCoAoLOrxSM&list=HL1350393987&feature=mh_lolz
I couldn't agree more with Cedars ,I made this video in like mind few days ago
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How many non-believers on the inside
by biblecheck init's taken me about 7 years after leaving the watchtower, to become actively involved within the exjw communities.
as part of this i created a couple of videos to, hopefully, help some others.
but what amazed me was the number of people who have pm'd me via youtube who are still active members of the watchtower - who know it's not the truth - but haven't left.
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raymond frantz
Also the average Jehovah's Witness is a different animal all together from the one that was 20-30 years ago .These people 99% of them will not questioned or stand up for anything ,nevertheless they are a digrace to Christian values and a shame to Jehovah .Unless something dramatic happens to their life they will not wake up
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How many non-believers on the inside
by biblecheck init's taken me about 7 years after leaving the watchtower, to become actively involved within the exjw communities.
as part of this i created a couple of videos to, hopefully, help some others.
but what amazed me was the number of people who have pm'd me via youtube who are still active members of the watchtower - who know it's not the truth - but haven't left.
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raymond frantz
The problem is not how many are on the inside ,but how can we constructively bring them down .I have not heard or seen one genuine idea as to how to go about
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses an American Sect?
by cedars inthis faq was recently added to jw.org.... .
are you an american sect?our world headquarters is located in the united states of america.
however, we are not an american sect for the following reasons:.
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raymond frantz
They are a totalitarian regime that resembles more and more George Orwell's "1984" .The rank and file tag along out of fear or heavy indoctrination .The current generation of Witnesses have little in common with previous generations that used to use the Bible more and debate doctrine more.I have not seen a single article this year that disgusses doctrine it is all loaded cult language .We are witnessing the end of a religion in the hands of 8 idiots ,how sad
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Jesus moneylenders and the GB today
by raymond frantz inin jesus' days the pharishees were the religious leaders ,anyone questioning their authority ended up in the shehindrin and if you really pushed the boat with them maybe crucified .they were a top down organization a bit like our dear gb .jesus used force to throw out the money lenders out of the temple ,which you can violence ?
what does that teach us about dealingwith an organization that vehemently denies to listen to their members cry for change ?
your ideas please .
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In Jesus' days the Pharishees were the religious leaders ,anyone questioning their authority ended up in the Shehindrin and if you really pushed the boat with them maybe crucified .They were a top down organization a bit like our dear GB .Jesus used force to throw out the money lenders out of the temple ,which you can violence ? What does that teach us about dealingwith an organization that vehemently denies to listen to their members cry for change ? Your ideas please